{"id":453,"date":"2026-06-22T10:07:06","date_gmt":"2026-06-22T10:07:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/americanlivingreport.com\/?p=453"},"modified":"2026-06-22T10:07:06","modified_gmt":"2026-06-22T10:07:06","slug":"the-maga-stars-freaked-out-by-their-own-movement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/americanlivingreport.com\/?p=453","title":{"rendered":"The MAGA stars freaked out by their own movement"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>In 2017, US Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) offered what remains one of the most insightful explanations of Donald Trump\u2019s rise from any elected official. Massie, a Tea Party libertarian in the Rand and Ron Paul mode, was wondering why so many of his supporters could back an un-libertarian candidate like Trump. His conclusion was grim.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/americanlivingreport.com\/?p=451\">You don\u2019t need better boundaries. You need a better framework.<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cThey weren\u2019t voting for libertarian ideas \u2014 they were voting for the craziest son of a bitch in the race,\u201d Massie said. \u201cAnd Donald Trump won best in class, as we had up until he came along.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Last month, the \u201ccraziest son of a bitch\u201d took Massie down. Trump \u2014 miffed by Massie\u2019s stance on the Epstein files and the Iran war \u2014 endorsed his challenger in Kentucky, and the popular libertarian was pushed out of a seat he\u2019d held for nearly 14 years.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Massie conceded. But at no point, during the race or afterward, has the logical next step: reflecting on how his own actions caused the problem. Massie\u2019s years of vocal support for Trump, and his boundary-pushing Tea Party politics, had helped turn the GOP into the political chaos agent he once bemoaned.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Massie is the poster child for a particular kind of conservative now emerging in Trump\u2019s second term: influential Trump allies who have sounded the alarm about the right\u2019s direction, but who steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that their own actions in the Trump era may have had something to do with it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The examples are mounting. Joe Rogan, who regularly sells his audience on conspiratorial mistrust of official narratives, is now denouncing conspiracy theories about the assassination attempts on Trump. The pundit Ben Shapiro has gone to war against right-wing podcaster Candace Owens, who he now calls an antisemitic crank \u2014 while barely acknowledging that he himself played an instrumental role in Owens\u2019s rise. You can even see this happening with Trump himself, who has spent his presidency battling rumors about an elite pedophile network run by Jeffrey Epstein that he helped stoke earlier, and which arose from a MAGA movement he trained to see conspiracy at every turn.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>It\u2019s a real-life version of the famous sketch on Tim Robinson\u2019s show <em>I Think You Should Leave<\/em>, where a hot-dog-shaped car crashes into a storefront and a man in a hot dog suit says, \u201cWe\u2019re all trying to find the guy who did this.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The \u201chot dog men\u201d \u2014 and yes, they\u2019re almost all men \u2014 are easy to mock. But their growing ranks point to something serious: that right-wing political machine is spinning out of control in ways that even some of its most aggressive and radical voices recognize as dangerous. And as the right searches for new leadership before Trump himself fades into history, nobody on their side has shown any proven ability to contain or redirect its worst impulses.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>In the absence of post-Trump leaders both willing and able to address the real problems, the future of the right \u2014 and, thus, in some sense, America \u2014 is dangerously unclear.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<h2>The growing ranks of the \u201chot dog men\u201d<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Admitting error is tough; admitting culpability for something bad happening is even harder. We\u2019ve all been \u201chot dog men\u201d at some point in our lives \u2014 and in politics, all movements have had moments of desperately trying to blame anyone else for their mistakes.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>But there are, at present, a disproportionate number of hot dog men in the right\u2019s top ranks. This is not a coincidence. It\u2019s a reflection of the right hitting a moment where its continuing radicalization has begun to elude the control of even the people who thought they were steering the ship.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Take Ben Shapiro as an example. His feud with Candace Owens began when she worked at his outlet, the Daily Wire, arising out of her criticism of Israel during the war with Gaza. After Owens\u2019s critiques verged into openly antisemitic territory in 2024 \u2014 liking an X post accusing a rabbi of being \u201cdrunk on Christian blood\u201d \u2014 the Daily Wire fired her. Since then, Shapiro has not only attacked Owens, but has worked to actively purge her from the conservative movement. The <em>Ben Shapiro Show<\/em> regularly features monologues attacking Owens; one recent episode was simply titled \u201cCandace Owens is evil.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Yet these broadsides rarely acknowledge Shapiro\u2019s crucial role in her rise to fame.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>When Owens was making a name for herself as a right-wing commentator, between roughly 2017 and 2020, she was already prone to conspiracies and extremism. Owens had, for example, claimed that Bill Gates was conducting secret medical experiments on African children and suggested Hitler\u2019s main mistake was invading other countries. Despite this, or perhaps because of it, the Daily Wire hired her to host a talk show titled <em>Candace<\/em> \u2014 which would become the vehicle for her current online stardom.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>In public, at least, Shapiro shows no interest in reflecting on his mistake. In a recent video, titled \u201cAll the haters can kiss my ass,\u201d he blames her recent prominence on the liberal media, who he describes as collaborating with Owens and her allies (like Tucker Carlson) to take down \u201cnormie\u201d conservatives like Shapiro. \u201cThey\u2019re always happy to run this grift because they love a right that is crazy,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Yet it was Shapiro who was benefitting financially from the spread of \u201ccrazy\u201d \u2014 right up until he felt it had escaped his control.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Chris Rufo, arguably the right\u2019s leading activist on cultural issues, is another example. Rufo, like Shapiro, is very concerned about the rise of antisemitic extremism on the right. When Joe Kent resigned from his top counterterrorism post in the Trump administration over Iran, issuing a public letter filled with antisemitic tropes, Rufo chided him for turning his \u201cresignation into another podcast-brained conspiracy.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Yet in the same post, Rufo recalls that he \u201ccampaigned for [Kent] when he was running for Congress in my home state\u201d \u2014 at a time when it was <em>already<\/em> clear who Kent was. During his first congressional run (in the 2022 cycle), Kent called white nationalist podcaster Nick Fuentes for messaging advice, did an interview with a neo-Nazi, and hired a Proud Boy as a campaign consultant. His extremism was a chief reason he lost a conservative Washington district to Democrat Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (twice).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>But Rufo describes Kent as only now \u201ctreading into [nutty] territory,\u201d as if his long record of conspiracist extremism didn\u2019t exist. To do otherwise would require Rufo to ask whether he was wrong to try and put this man in Congress \u2014 a question he has no interest in raising.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Rogan, for his part, recently has started fretting over conspiracy theories about the Trump assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. \u201cAnybody that thinks that\u2019s that staged is out of their fucking mind,\u201d he said in the May 13 episode of his podcast.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Yet in the same video, in roughly the same <em>minute<\/em>, he considers a counter-conspiracy: that the Butler shooter and more recent White House Correspondent\u2019s Dinner assailants were \u201cMK Ultra\u201d types brainwashed by the deep state to go after Trump. This is par for the course for Rogan, who has played an outsized role in both mainstreaming conspiracy theories and bringing voters who believe said theories into the Trump orbit.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Instead of reflecting on this, Rogan instead reaches for scapegoats \u2014 blaming social media for the spread of speculation that lack the Rogan seal of approval. \u201cThis is TikTok \u2014 it\u2019s fucking ruining people\u2019s brains. It\u2019s fucking rotting their brains out from inside their heads,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Shapiro, Rufo, and Rogan are three of the most important figures of the modern right. That they\u2019ve all started sounding like comedy \u201chot dog men\u201d of late suggests the right has a genuine problem on its hands.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Indeed, there are plenty of other examples.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Mark Levin, the Fox News and talk radio provocateur with Trump\u2019s ear, unironically complains about \u201cpodcasters\u201d who are \u201cnot about informing or educating,\u201d but rather profiting off being \u201ccrazier\u201d than their competitors. Rod Dreher, a right-wing writer who has long promoted a famously racist anti-immigration novel, has been expressing deep concern about rising bigotry on the young right. And even Dinesh D\u2019Souza \u2014 a commentator who has spent literally decades spreading increasingly toxic, racially tinged conspiracies \u2014 is now warning that right-wing racism may prompt \u201cmass desertions of blacks, Latinos and other minorities from the GOP.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>All of these men openly helped build the right-wing political culture that got us here. Now they\u2019re all trying, desperately, to find the guy who did this.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<h2>The hot dog men and the right\u2019s escalation ladder<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>I have a lot of sympathy for many of the substantive concerns these conservatives are raising. Conspiracist antisemitism really is bad; its rise on the right is genuinely dangerous. It is better for America to have Chris Rufo and Mark Levin warning about these things hypocritically than staying silent. Ben Shapiro has been particularly bold: He\u2019s made a point of trying to critique the conspiratorial tendency in politics more broadly even as the Daily Wire\u2019s traffic and YouTube views are in free fall.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>But the fact that these men are all simultaneously donning hot dog suits points to something important: They appear to be losing influence over a right-wing machine they thought they could control. What happened?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Even before Trump, the right has been defined by its oppositional culture: specifically, a desire for its public figures to smash what they see as the \u201cwoke\u201d or \u201cPC\u201d rules restricting right-wing expression. The base\u2019s hunger for transgression creates an ever-growing desire for more and more radical stances from their leaders. The thrill comes from seeing boundaries broken, from hearing liberal shrieks of bigotry and ignoring them.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s like drugs,\u201d says Charlie Sykes, a conservative talk radio host turned Never Trumper. \u201cPot used to be enough, but now I need the purest meth I can find out there on the street.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Being on the cutting edge, and building a growing young audience, requires pushing this process further and further.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/americanlivingreport.com\/?p=449\">Why we don\u2019t actually want a world without mosquitoes<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>If your critique of LGBT activism centers on its alleged threat to Christians\u2019 religious freedom, you\u2019ll soon get outflanked by someone claiming trans identity is a mental illness. If your commentary on race and sex discrimination ends at critiquing affirmative action, your audience will move to someone saying Blacks have low IQs and women are ruining the workplace. And eventually, when even these provocations start to feel tired for right-wing audiences, someone will go even further \u2014 suggesting one\u2019s political opponents are pedophiles, communing with literal demons, or puppets of a Jewish conspiracy.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The hot dog men are right-wingers who saw this ratchet as tolerable or even helpful to a point, but are appalled at those willing to push it further \u2014 targeting groups they are members of or sympathetic toward, or abandoning ideas like formal colorblindness they\u2019ve long defended.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<h2>There may be no brakes on the car<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>One question is: Can they do anything to stop it?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Probably not, says Pedro Gonzalez, a prominent MAGA commentator who abandoned Trump after the 2024 lies about Haitians eating pets.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cWhen your movement revolves around taboo-breaking and boundary-stepping, but then you decide there are some boundaries that are worth respecting, it\u2019s a joke. It\u2019s going to fail,\u201d he says. \u201cIt\u2019s going to collapse under its own weight.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Gonzalez and Sykes represent the alternative to the hot dog men. They are conservatives who not only recognized that something has gone wrong, but took responsibility for their own role in fueling the dynamics that brought the right to its current nadir.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>By saying this openly, they have alienated themselves from the movement they once called home. They look at the hot dog men, and see ghosts of themselves before that fateful choice.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cI wasn\u2019t the most self-aware guy in the world,\u201d says Stuart Stevens, the lead strategist for Mitt Romney\u2019s 2012 campaign. \u201cSome of us were like the guys working for Bernie Madoff who thought they were actually beating the market.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>When speaking with these apostates, I heard a strikingly similar kind of story. Be they old-guard politicos like Stevens or younger internet natives like Gonzalez, they all described themselves as casualties of the right\u2019s transgressive spirit. They thought there were lines that couldn\u2019t be crossed, only for Trump and his friends to leap over them.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Whether the break happened during Trump\u2019s original rise in 2016, or in response to some later outrage, they all realized that the moral boundaries they set for themselves did not and could not hold for the movement at large. The hot dog men, in their view, are flailing impotently against forces far larger than themselves.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cShapiro I think has been more outspoken than most,\u201d says Richard Hanania, a former extreme-right poster turned harsh GOP critic. \u201cBut\u2026I think that there\u2019s little he can do. This is an audience problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<h2>This throws the future of the GOP into doubt<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The rise of the hot dog men is not just a media story. It\u2019s actually a portent about the future of the entire Republican Party \u2014 and thus the entire country.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Right now, the fractious conservative movement is being held together by one figure: Donald Trump. The president\u2019s charismatic hold on the MAGA faithful allows him to define what the right stands for. His ousting of Massie and other enemies in recent primaries is the most recent evidence of his powers.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Yet even Trump has his limits. He has been unable to put the genie back in the bottle when it comes to Epstein conspiracy theories, which have been dogging his administration for over a year. His condemnation of Tucker Carlson during their post-Iran split has not ended the podcaster\u2019s career. And, most recently, his handpicked candidate in Iowa\u2019s gubernatorial race lost to a no-name MAHA insurgent.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>It seems, in short, like the time of a Trump-enforced consensus inside the Republican Party is coming to an end. And a lot of what\u2019s happening now, including the efforts by the hot dog men to cast out their extremist enemies, reflects a recognition of the party\u2019s uncertain future.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re trying to jockey for position in a post-Trump political world \u2014 or at least, a world where Trump is no longer a font of their own legitimacy,\u201d says David Austin Walsh, a historian at the University of Virginia who studies the right.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>So what does that world look like? The honest answer is that <em>no one knows<\/em> \u2014 and the hot dog men show us why.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Had they been able to successfully put the brakes on the GOP\u2019s radicalization process, you could imagine a fairly predictable post-Trump transition: one in which the right\u2019s policy and politics basically reflect their own priorities. But their efforts to purge radical voices are, as the apostates note, failing.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>In some cases, the hot dog men\u2019s efforts are even backfiring: The Daily Wire\u2019s numbers have gotten bad enough that it has recently been forced to do mass layoffs.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>In the absence of a kind of MAGA elite in waiting, a group of influential figures who can manage an orderly internal transition to a leader who reflects their values, it\u2019s nearly impossible to say what comes next with any certainty.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cIf you want to look at the future of the party, it\u2019s not about the elected officials or the leaders \u2014 it\u2019s about what\u2019s going on in the media ecosystem that will shape the base,\u201d Sykes says. \u201cIt won\u2019t go back to normal until it\u2019s no longer held hostage by the loudest, craziest, most extreme voices in the party.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Others I spoke with floated a very different scenario: one in which the divisions between the various forces trying to seize the mantle create an opportunity for the old GOP establishment.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The premise here is that the GOP\u2019s elected officials are, in large part, frustrated old-guard conservatives grudgingly going along with MAGA in order to stay relevant. While the podcaster cadres war with each other, this old guard might have an opening: field a candidate who captures the party\u2019s less-online voters while still wearing a convincing-enough populist skinsuit. Marco Rubio\u2019s recent 2028 polling surge makes this return-to-quasi-normalcy sound a little bit less outlandish than it might seem.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cI was surprised how much excitement there was when we started talking about Rubio and how much people came out of the woodwork to attack Vance,\u201d Hanania says. \u201cThere\u2019s an old GOP out there that is waiting for the opportunity.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>A third possibility is chaos: no charismatic individual, dominant ideology, nor singularly powerful faction emerges to take Trump\u2019s place as the right\u2019s unifying force. Neither JD Vance\u2019s far-right nationalism, nor Rubio\u2019s more old-school Reaganism, nor Robert F. Kennedy Jr.\u2019s Make America Health Again movement, nor any of dozens of flavors of influencers and would-be leaders achieve a level of influence that allows them to corral the rest.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>In this scenario, Republican Party politics becomes seemingly endless factional warfare. No single election, not even a White House victory, ends the conflict \u2014 one waged in primary elections, small magazine essays, and angry podcast monologues. This has basically been the Democratic Party since the Obama presidency; Hillary Clinton\u2019s defeat created an ideological vacuum no one left-of-center vision has been able to completely fill. The right\u2019s future could look similar.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>\u201cEven within the Republican Party, [MAGA]\u2019s power is not what it once was \u2014 even a year ago,\u201d Walsh says. \u201cAt the same time, I don\u2019t know what else there is on the right right now.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>I can\u2019t rank which of these possibilities is most likely. In fact, I\u2019m confident this isn\u2019t an exhaustive list. The right is so chaotic at present, its most influential non-Trump voices so unable to dictate terms, that it\u2019s hard to predict with any certainty where it will go in 2028 \u2014 let alone in the years to come.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>But one thing is for sure: Whatever ends up happening, there will be a significant number of people dissatisfied with what their movement becomes. 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